Youth Crime - Debate
 

If you were in the governments position, how you tackle youth crime. In the UK the main bit of talk is about knife crime, in fact the other day 5 people were all stabbed and killed in one day throughout london. The different government parties have different views on what should be done.

The conflict between the parties has cause anxiety over the country. Nobody likes indecisive rule and that is exactly what is happening. Here is a few links about all of it if you are vague on the subject: Link 1 - Link 2

So come on! Express and validate your own opinion

Simple answer: Commit a crime = Forced joining the army! Good solution don't you think?

You think that giving them weapons to learn how to use is a good idea. That would be the last thing i would want to do.

Army teaches these kids discipline thats all.....

It teaches them self control and discipline but is it really the way to go! There could be so many other options next to national service.

Theres really no way to stop violence. People will always kill or harm other people.

Because you haven't tried every possible option how can you be quite so sure of that?

Fucking incredible idea. I agree and support.

Ok, you give me an option that will end crime permanently.

Option 1: Kill everyone who commits a crime.

How is that supposed to stop people from commiting crimes in the future?

Though it is un-logical, killing a person who commits a crime would certainly stop a lot of people. People would want to keep themselves alive and death would be a terrifying aspect if caught.

Yes but its just unreasonable, the cost of killing every person who commited a crime,
plus the fact of trying to aprove it. There are way to many
holes in the theory of killing someone who commited a cirme.

About the stabbings, i feel if your stoped and searched and your found to have a knife, gun then that should be like 6 months in jail, full stop. People will carry knifes along as other people do, the cousin of one of the teenagers stabbed in London sayed "if NAME was carrying a knife, he couldve defended himself, but because he didnt he died."
Its a sicken circle.

Six months in jail for carrying a gun or knife, that will never happen.
Crime will never end, people will always kill other people. And even
if the kid had a knife that doesn't mean he wouldn't have died.

I like the military idea, if someone commits a youth crime thats severe or it is a multiple offense then sending them into a military organization would be a alternative punishment but it depends on the crime.

The government won't put their most of their efforts into deciding what they do to people after they commit crimes. They will try to head them off before they even happen/.

If you were carrying a knife, and you knew it carryed a 6 month jail sentence, wouldnt you think twice about taking it out again? I would.

Well WAR makes ppl crazy.

Nunk, you posted a mornic post. Please, DO NOT enter the intelligent discussion again! EVER.

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If you suggest putting childern into military camp will work, than you're wrong. It's simply a mere punishment; similar as getting yelled at by your parents. You will end up doing it again. There's nothing that American soceity can do, but punish them accordingly (Juvy). If we do put them in juvy, they will end up having more haterd towards police/goverment and comit more crimes. WE SHOULD LET PARENTS MONITOR THEIR CHILDREN.

You should be banned from ever trying to speak in the "Intelligent Discussion" forums.

Like all punishments it has to distinguish right and wrong, that is why i support spanking children at a younger age. Your not smacking them hard, you are just being dominant and showing them what they did is wrong.

And it works, i was punished like that and never put a foot wrong. The military could work in the same way. My thoughts would be to do half military service and half community service.

Parents should monitor their children, but for some reason alot don't care, i've seen 4yr olds out on the road playing, where the hell are the parents >.<.

So you support violence? Just imagine, if you had a child, you spanked/hit him until he was a vicious teenager. He will learn from your actions, and preform it on other people. I DO NOT SUPPORT HITTING/SPANKING CHILDREN.

There is a fine line between abuse and discipline, if your correcting behaviour without pain then surely they won't become a vicious teenager (I never became one). If the kid is learning what i'm teaching him/her then that is a good thing, i want them to take in the lesson.

It isn't like smacking somebody about, think of it as dog training you nip at the dogs neck when they do bad things. All you are doing is showing the dog who is dominant, if they do it then they get a nip at the neck (which doesn't hurt the dog).

Some children have turned out bad, from not being hit/spanked when they have done something wrong.

You cannot force a child or teen, or even an adult to join the army because they committed a crime. That whole concept is idiotic and would never work. And im sure
the military does not want incompetent thugs flooding in.

You're proposing, KILL EVERYONE THAT COMMITS A CRIME. What if I litter? To I deserve to die? Of course not, that's not a way to stop crime.

Not killing everyone that commits a crime, but tougher sentences.
Etc, if your caught with a knife then say 3 months in jail, fullstop.

You cannot put someone in jail for carrying a knife, it will never happen.