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It's Me 07-21-2008 07:10 PM

How Clicking Works in Rs
 
Well I seem to have found out how you click in rs, aswell as what determines who can click "faster". For everyone about to say that it's who has the faster computer it's not. Click speed is determined by the numbers in your IP Address. I don't know why it's like that but it is and I have proof. This may not seem like much but it gives you a distinct advantage in CW games in getting the flag. There may be more uses but I'm not sure of any yet. If anyone knows of anything where your competing for an item with another player and you need to click it please post so I can see if it applies to other things.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4P7_QR5Vik
Crappy video for proof.

Envy 07-21-2008 07:22 PM

This is quite interesting. How did you come across to finding this? Which IP best benefits from this? I always thought the speed as determined by connectivity.

Mezala 07-21-2008 07:23 PM

I'm 80% this is false. I thing it matters your internet speed

EDIT::: Not a bug

It's Me 07-21-2008 07:30 PM

I'm 100% sure this is true. Don't really know where to post either, but since it gives you an unfair advantage that's kind of buggish right? I came across this through cwing alot. I noticed that whenever my router would DC I would be faster or slower then some cwers who hadn't DCed. Through further testing I found which IPs were the best at closing doors on people and grabbing flag. If you don't beleive that's fine but I know this works and I'd be glad to show anyone the proof.

Vizerak 07-21-2008 08:49 PM

hmmm really really interesting, if its true nice find, what ip is better for this??

Ian 07-21-2008 09:53 PM

Might want to try out a drop party with this.

Lust 07-21-2008 09:59 PM

I think this is bullshit lol. And there are no more drop parties.

It's Me 07-22-2008 08:42 AM

Well I just confirmed it with 3 people, 1 being Dark Angel.
According to theory I can set my ip to outclick anyone for flag at CW, close door on them w/o them getting through, outclick people for balloons at drop parties, and maybe more.
I'll continue testing.

Dark_ 07-22-2008 08:44 AM

I just tested with him.

I spam clicked a gate, and then he tried going thriugh.

1'st time, he kept going threw, the second time after he changed his ip, he couldn't get past.

Bizcrack 07-22-2008 09:16 AM

Lol just pay ur ISP for a good static ip wich makes it fast to take the flag and own ;p

Balls 07-22-2008 09:54 AM

Which gives you a better click rate? Low / High total? Or is it something else altogether.

*Experiments*

blue mage286 07-22-2008 10:03 AM

interesting i wonder if this actualy works
nice find anyway ^^

letzgokill 07-22-2008 10:29 AM

This is tight. You should take it to party pete's and tell us what you get :P.

juvenilepunk 07-22-2008 10:41 AM

Awesome discovery id like to test it out

Southern 07-22-2008 12:52 PM

sounds off the wall but if it works then it works :\

Dharok1337 07-22-2008 02:54 PM

-sigh-

I am a hacker, and computer expert and I can tell you that this is 100% false based on their IP. Your IP has nothing to do with the game other then telling jagex your connection information.

The reason this so called "advantage" is happening because of your clicking time, it could be just a milisecond off and it would cause a wrong result.

Fabis 07-22-2008 02:58 PM

IF this works then this might give you a big profit at Fally party house :o

It's Me 07-22-2008 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dharok1337 (Post 5520)
-sigh-

I am a hacker, and computer expert and I can tell you that this is 100% false based on their IP. Your IP has nothing to do with the game other then telling jagex your connection information.

The reason this so called "advantage" is happening because of your clicking time, it could be just a milisecond off and it would cause a wrong result.

You're wrong, I have proof.

Fabis 07-22-2008 03:54 PM

Can you please post this proof? Though, im not saying i don't believe you.

deathdot 07-24-2008 04:24 PM

Nice, so you know what ip you need for this? If only i knew...

hakufusdragon 07-25-2008 02:05 AM

This is 100% bullshit. You apparently know nothing of Java coding.

Other than the actual detection in their code it also depends on your network connection speed,graphics rendering power(graphics card), ram,etc... Hardware specs will mainly stop you from lagging. Having a higher connection speed is useful as well. But if you have a 1989 comp with 20meg net someone on dialup would still have a better reaction time due to person with an older computer not being able to render shit.(aka "Loading now..." I seriously doubt a comp that old could even run rs though lol). Click speed is really the same for everyone. It's just how fast it will react to that click that matters. By that I mean data sent from the client telling the server "Hey he just clicked DO THIS". I could go on but I won't. lol

Josh.

bluefirecorp 07-25-2008 02:20 AM

Sorry to say, but josh just owned ya...

hampe-92 07-25-2008 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lol5916 (Post 5141)
I think this is bullshit lol. And there are no more drop parties.

there is drop parties.. in party room in fally....

Mykei 07-25-2008 06:14 PM

Sorry if anyone has already beaten me to the punch but the reason why when you're changing your IP it seems to go faster is probably due to the fact your using a IP closer to the server.

It's Me 07-25-2008 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hakufusdragon (Post 7003)
This is 100% bullshit. You apparently know nothing of Java coding.

Other than the actual detection in their code it also depends on your network connection speed,graphics rendering power(graphics card), ram,etc... Hardware specs will mainly stop you from lagging. Having a higher connection speed is useful as well. But if you have a 1989 comp with 20meg net someone on dialup would still have a better reaction time due to person with an older computer not being able to render shit.(aka "Loading now..." I seriously doubt a comp that old could even run rs though lol). Click speed is really the same for everyone. It's just how fast it will react to that click that matters. By that I mean data sent from the client telling the server "Hey he just clicked DO THIS". I could go on but I won't. lol

Josh.

You're 100% an idiot. You apparently know nothing about me saying "I have proof and I've tested it countless times."
The faster IP always wins unless you lag. Prove to me you're right in game and I'm wrong and then I'll give you permission to post long useless essays which you've never tested on my threads. Until then gtfo.

Southern 07-25-2008 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by It's Me (Post 7245)
You're 100% an idiot. You apparently know nothing about me saying "I have proof and I've tested it countless times."
The faster IP always wins unless you lag. Prove to me you're right in game and I'm wrong and then I'll give you permission to post long useless essays which you've never tested on my threads. Until then gtfo.


just like mykei where were the the ips located at?

and i have a good internet but bad comp :|

hakufusdragon 07-25-2008 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by It's Me (Post 7245)
You're 100% an idiot. You apparently know nothing about me saying "I have proof and I've tested it countless times."
The faster IP always wins unless you lag. Prove to me you're right in game and I'm wrong and then I'll give you permission to post long useless essays which you've never tested on my threads. Until then gtfo.

The actual IP address is nothing but a number assigned to one's computer by their ISP in a branch type system determined by an equation. It's fairly simple to manually assign an ip. You just need to know the Octet values and what class of subnetting they use. I'm not going into HOW to do it as I've already had enough subnetting equations to do in school. -.-

How fast your click is DETECTED is determined by distance from server,routing,etc. Ping is the word.

I'm not going to argue with you because you seem to be as stubborn as a mule so have fun with your false statements.

It's Me 07-25-2008 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hakufusdragon (Post 7251)
The actual IP address is nothing but a number assigned to one's computer by their ISP in a branch type system determined by an equation. It's fairly simple to manually assign an ip. You just need to know the Octet values and what class of subnetting they use. I'm not going into HOW to do it as I've already had enough subnetting equations to do in school. -.-

How fast your click is DETECTED is determined by distance from server,routing,etc. Ping is the word.

I'm not going to argue with you because you seem to be as stubborn as a mule so have fun with your false statements.

Since you're as stuborn aswell I'll let you do the work. Go make your ip X.X.8.0.
If anyone in runescape outclicks you for the flag, call me.

You only think the way you do because you're closed minded and everything I'm saying goes against everything you know. But if you open your mind and look at the FACTS not the PREVIOUS GEUSSES you have you'll see that I'm right. You can beleive what SHOULD be right or what IS right, it's up to you.

Mystery222 07-26-2008 09:22 AM

You still haven't posted any proof and I am highly sceptical as your theory doesn't make any sense.
Oh and by the way saying that you "have proof" doesn't actually count as showing proof.

It's Me 07-26-2008 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystery222 (Post 7375)
You still haven't posted any proof and I am highly sceptical as your theory doesn't make any sense.
Oh and by the way saying that you "have proof" doesn't actually count as showing proof.

Explain to me how I can show I can click fast without showing it on RS? Besides the reason I didn't post good IPs is because I don't want people to be faster then me obviously. So if you don't believe me that's fine, I'd rather not have a bunch of noobs outclicking me for the flag.

Mystery222 07-26-2008 09:58 AM

For one you could outline how you discovered this. Then explain how you can change your IP to a "good one" without it screwing up your internet connection. To me "clicking fast" could mean one of two things: 1. Physically pressing the mouse button rather quickly or 2. Having a fast internet connection so that your click messages get to the server faster. Explain how one IP address might speed this process up opposed to another.

kthnxbye 07-26-2008 11:33 AM

i dont know much of java or ips at all, but i think its all about reflex.. who clicks first (not rapidly) gets the flag.

Dharok1337 07-26-2008 12:16 PM

Wow dude, this is starting to make me mad.

It has NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR IP.

IDFC about your "proof" wow you can run through a door when someone shuts it, big deal, I do it all the time. The coding doesn't work that way. Believe me, I probably know a hell of alot more about coding then you do.

Why would Runescape implement a system based on what numbers your IP have?
They wouldn't, this is a stupid thread.

It has to do with your connection speed and computer speed.

Look at it like this.

My computer is FAST but my graphics card sucks, on counter strike I have FPS of 9. When I shoot, I shoot like 1 bullet a second.

And, once again, YOU ARE THE IDIOT. If you post a IP they CAN NOT, I repeat CAN NOT change their IP to yours unless it is a proxy and allows connections to it.

If you reset your IP, you are giving random numbers. They are not 100% random since your ISP most likely has a IP range set.

It's Me 07-26-2008 12:20 PM

Ok since you're all arrogant give me proof that you're right and I'll outclick you with my crappy computer. Until YOU can show proof gtfo my thread.

Dharok1337 07-26-2008 12:21 PM

I don't see any of YOUR proof. Why in the world would jagex make a system based on your IP? THEY DON'T!

Mystery222 07-26-2008 12:28 PM

Please explain how you came to the conclusion that your IP has any affect on how quickly the click message from your client reaches the server.

I'm going to have to agree with Dharok, a system whereby the speed of your actions is determined by a completely unrelated piece of data, your IP address, is ridiculous. No developer in their right mind would do something like that.

One last note, the speed of your computer is not likely to greatly affect the speed of your "clicking". As long as you have a decent connection to the internet (1MB Broadband) the data packet will still be sent fast (more or less) regardless of your computer speed.

It's Me 07-26-2008 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystery222 (Post 7428)
Please explain how you came to the conclusion that your IP has any affect on how quickly the click message from your client reaches the server.

I'm going to have to agree with Dharok, a system whereby the speed of your actions is determined by a completely unrelated piece of data, your IP address, is ridiculous. No developer in their right mind would do something like that.

One last note, the speed of your computer is not likely to greatly affect the speed of your "clicking". As long as you have a decent connection to the internet (1MB Broadband) the data packet will still be sent fast (more or less) regardless of your computer speed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dharok1337 (Post 7427)
I don't see any of YOUR proof. Why in the world would jagex make a system based on your IP? THEY DON'T!

I explained how I found out on first page. If you can't show proof you're right you have no reason to say that I'm wrong you're going off previous knowledge from other things and not Rs.

Mystery222 07-26-2008 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by It's Me (Post 7430)
I explained how I found out on first page. If you can't show proof you're right you have no reason to say that I'm wrong you're going off previous knowledge from other things and not Rs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by It's Me (Post 7430)
Well I seem to have found out how you click in rs, aswell as what determines who can click "faster". For everyone about to say that it's who has the faster computer it's not. Click speed is determined by the numbers in your IP Address. I don't know why it's like that but it is and I have proof. This may not seem like much but it gives you a distinct advantage in CW games in getting the flag. There may be more uses but I'm not sure of any yet. If anyone knows of anything where your competing for an item with another player and you need to click it please post so I can see if it applies to other things.

At which point in your first post do you explain how you found this out. You merely tell us you've discovered this and then go on to list possible uses.

My reasoning comes from pure common sense and subject knowledge. It just doesn't make any sense to create a system of this type. That is the rationale behind my thinking. Where is yours? You seemed to have plucked this theory out of nowhere. There is nothing in the game that would suggest that your idea may be true. My guess is that occasionally you noticed that the server responded to your clicks faster than usual and you made an irrational link between that and your IP address.

It's Me 07-26-2008 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by It's Me (Post 5080)
I'm 100% sure this is true. Don't really know where to post either, but since it gives you an unfair advantage that's kind of buggish right? I came across this through cwing alot. I noticed that whenever my router would DC I would be faster or slower then some cwers who hadn't DCed. Through further testing I found which IPs were the best at closing doors on people and grabbing flag. If you don't beleive that's fine but I know this works and I'd be glad to show anyone the proof.

I said first page. Use your eyes next time. Thanks.

Mystery222 07-26-2008 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by It's Me (Post 7438)
I said first page. Use your eyes next time. Thanks.

I did, hence why I was able to misread your post.

You say right there you are happy to show anyone the proof so please do so.

Anyway since you have taken to scrutinising my posts trying to bring things off topic I will take it that you are conceding the argument. Cheers.


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