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Jared 10-15-2009 02:08 AM

Ban Altair :)
 
Since he showed up, every post of his has been leeching EXCEPT for one, go check for yourself.

Also - epic luls are to be had:

http://i37.tinypic.com/33emzut.png
( http://i37.tinypic.com/33emzut.png )


http://www.rsbot.org/vb/showthread.php?t=144491

Lol :)

If not, I'll ban him soon myself anyways, fucker didn't realize he was on EZUD now.

Math 10-15-2009 02:30 AM

i'd say give him a chance, besides, nobody is gonna give away a CFT to a new person asking for one anyway

also, did he make any leech posts on Ezud yet? if not, he definately shouldn't be banned

DeadOwnage 10-15-2009 03:13 AM

Ban his ass .

jjakk 10-15-2009 03:33 AM

Ban, hes bumping all old topics/leeching.

Jared 10-15-2009 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Math (Post 77656)
i'd say give him a chance, besides, nobody is gonna give away a CFT to a new person asking for one anyway

also, did he make any leech posts on Ezud yet? if not, he definately shouldn't be banned

Yes Math, he has made leeching posts already, and he has been here for ONE day.

Also - view the thread. His maturity is shown throughout it.

Lastly - he comes in, acts like he is "hot shit" due to the fact that Svew reffered him (althought I thank Svew for reffering members) and asks for a SI his first day, and says "It's not really leaking if it's an SI" then later states he will not share anything, even with the person who shares the SI (Whoever that person ends up, is a moron.

Sooo... yea.

Math 10-15-2009 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjakk (Post 77662)
Ban, hes bumping all old topics/leeching.

Bumping old topics shouldnt be bannable. he bumped only topics on the first page as far i can see.. if people dont post on week-old topics ezud will loose its last bit of activity

Fire Away Altair 10-15-2009 09:06 AM

That was posted on RSBOT!!!! I have NOT been leaching ANYTHING here! I gave that up. I'm trying to start from scratch and work my way up to being able to find things out on my own. How are you going to ban me for something I posted on Rsbot?

Thats fucking gay. And no I have NOT been making posts ever since I've been here for leaching. I'll make comment on threads and shit about glitches you guys have shown.

This is bullshit.


And how is asking for an example of an SI leaching? What the fuck seriously? No I haven't acted like I was big shit because Svew referred me here. You might not even have to ban me. I'll probably leave because from what I've seen so far Ezud is full of dickheads anyways


Guys he's cropped that CFT post from Rsbot. I posted that on there. That was before I decided to try and find out things on my own. How is asking for help with something leaching? This is fucking retarted.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Math
even tho ur probably aware of it already, i seriously think that new members are afraid to post due to the flaming levels here. and once a member is banned.. they should stay that way >.<, atleast for more than a few days


Thank you VERY much Math. Now I see why this is a dead forum. When you guys actually get new members and they are just starting out, you flame them and criticize them. Then they get banned for asking for help like I did. That would discourage ANYONE from

A) Posting here

or

B) Even being here period

Also when they can't post because you'll flame them, you call them leachers and put down on them because you think they are trying to get shit patched and are untrustworthy. When in reality you are all the enablers for your own flaming. You discourage anyone from posting and when they do because of their low post count you flame them for it and call them leachers.


Also I know why you have a personal vendetta against me Jared. Your mad because I owned your ass in my thread and now your trying to have me banned here to get back at me. Corrupt Mod Ftl?

So let me get this straight. I can't ask for help on understanding anything because then that's leaching, and I can't tell you guys how to do anything because that's leaking. Wow this place sucks. I mean really I don't have a problem with the leaking part I'm not here to leak OR leach shit. I came here because Svew told me that this would be a good place to start trying to get some understanding on how to find bugs and glitches and shit. I come here ask for an example of a SI which to be honest I didn't know that was leaching. If it's common knowledge what a SI is then what the fuck? I just wanted an example because based on Teh Gods thread there are a couple of bugs I think that could use the SI.

So I can't come here and ask for help with anything? Yeah this place officially sucks ass. Jared I think your a shit mod. It's my first day here, and you single me out for banning because I want to ask for help? Lame....Just fucking lame. Also how are you going to post on that thread calling me barbaric because I used the word fucker when you yourself just called me a fucker in your first post....Hypocrite much?




dasimers 10-15-2009 09:52 AM

Jared, i love it when you post high intelligence insults on kiddies threads, it gives me a 'special feeling' i learnt about in sex Ed.

jjakk 10-15-2009 10:35 AM

Damn, cool story bro.

Jello 10-15-2009 11:00 AM

Ban him. Altair, we don't need your kind here.

If you're caught leeching or leaking, it doesn't matter where it happened, you're not welcome here. If you want to know a CFT, go find it yourself.

The reason we have the no leeching/leaking rule in place, is to avoid having the bug fixed. Even though you "promised" not to leak it, YOU'VE BEEN HERE FOR A DAY. WE BARELY KNOW YOU. If we leak bugs to you, we'll have to leak them to everyone. Either that, or you'll leak bugs to someone who was in the same position as you, and eventually, Jagex will find it.

If you're using a CFT and you don't know how it works at all, well, why are you here? Just to get some bugs then leave? Not contribute to the community whatsoever? Not happening. Good day to you sir.

After one day, this thread will be locked and Altair will be banned. Just to give him a chance here...

DeadOwnage 10-15-2009 12:07 PM

gtfo out my ezuds

Fire Away Altair 10-15-2009 12:18 PM

Fuck you guys....You don't need my kind here? When was I leaching? Excuse the fuck out of me if I didn't know asking for an example of a stackable interface was leaching. Stackable interface doesn't sound like much of a glitch to me. Anyways fuck you all have fun with your dead website.


Btw I have found out something on my own. I was messing around last night and found out how to ft but I can't control it. Everytime i try to move or anything it just boots me back. But whatever. Fuck you guys, don't know why I bothered with this bullshit.

And another thing don't edit my fucking sig. I'm not asking anyone to leak me ANYTHING. I'm asking for help figuring something out. Fucking assholes

Jello 10-15-2009 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Away Altair (Post 77708)
Fuck you guys....You don't need my kind here? When was I leaching? Excuse the fuck out of me if I didn't know asking for an example of a stackable interface was leaching. Stackable interface doesn't sound like much of a glitch to me. Anyways fuck you all have fun with your dead website.

That paragraph right there proved that you know absolutely nothing about bug abuse. Even more of a reason not to leak to you.

Get of my Ezud now.

Jared 10-15-2009 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Away Altair (Post 77708)
Fuck you guys....You don't need my kind here? When was I leaching? Excuse the fuck out of me if I didn't know asking for an example of a stackable interface was leaching. Stackable interface doesn't sound like much of a glitch to me. Anyways fuck you all have fun with your dead website.


Btw I have found out something on my own. I was messing around last night and found out how to ft but I can't control it. Everytime i try to move or anything it just boots me back. But whatever. Fuck you guys, don't know why I bothered with this bullshit.

And another thing don't edit my fucking sig. I'm not asking anyone to leak me ANYTHING. I'm asking for help figuring something out. Fucking assholes


What do you mean "You guys"?

We don't take kind to racists here, sir.

Fire Away Altair 10-15-2009 12:35 PM

It wasn't racist. And Jello you are right. I know absolutely nothing about bug abuse. Why do you think I'm here? It's not to leak and leach and get stuff patched. It's so I can find out how to find bugs, and use them for my benefit. i've always been interested in smuggles. I'm here so I can learn how to start out just like you guys. I can't believe out of all the people here to try and leak and leach Jared singled me alone out for one post, about SI's. I've been trying to learn for myself. I've been messing around for hours this morning stalling tele's and trying to figure out how to control them. Have I asked for help with that? No......


Another thing. Jared you said you guys don't take kindly to racism here. Then what about Jello's comment on "We don't need your kind here Altair."

Your Kind? That's racist. Jared you singled me out because your pissed off about the Rsbot thing. Grow up and quit being immature. I made one post here asking about a glitch( according to you guys, you know my bad I didn't know that was considered a glitch, give me a break.) All my other posts have been relevant to the topic and not asking for anyone to tell me how to do it. Read my posts before you run your mouth...

Jared 10-15-2009 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Away Altair (Post 77714)
It wasn't racist. And Jello you are right. I know absolutely nothing about bug abuse. Why do you think I'm here? It's not to leak and leach and get stuff patched. It's so I can find out how to find bugs, and use them for my benefit. i've always been interested in smuggles. I'm here so I can learn how to start out just like you guys. I can't believe out of all the people here to try and leak and leach Jared singled me alone out for one post, about SI's. I've been trying to learn for myself. I've been messing around for hours this morning stalling tele's and trying to figure out how to control them. Have I asked for help with that? No......


Another thing. Jared you said you guys don't take kindly to racism here. Then what about Jello's comment on "We don't need your kind here Altair."

Your Kind? That's racist. Jared you singled me out because your pissed off about the Rsbot thing. Grow up and quit being immature. I made one post here asking about a glitch( according to you guys, you know my bad I didn't know that was considered a glitch, give me a break.) All my other posts have been relevant to the topic and not asking for anyone to tell me how to do it. Read my posts before you run your mouth...

Actually, I read all your posts.

And buddy, you don't have the control here, maybe you should read some of my posts and figure that out.

Jello 10-15-2009 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Away Altair (Post 77714)
Jared you said you guys don't take kindly to racism here. Then what about Jello's comment on "We don't need your kind here Altair."

Your Kind? That's racist.

If anything, that was leakist/leechist because I wasn't making fun of your race... but alright.

We have a zero tolerance for leaking and leeching here on Ezud.

Fire Away Altair 10-15-2009 12:50 PM

Listen, I know I'm way out of my league here....I'm new to this whole bug abuse thing. I honestly did not come here to leach and leak and get your glitches and shit patched. I honestly didn't. I came here so I could learn the basics of glitching. Be able to find some stuff out on my own, and be a part of this community who can contribute. I said I was going to leave before because I didn't want to become one of those people that just posts here to showoff and leak other peoples glitches.

I'm sorry I've been a dick to everyone, however in some respect you guys deserved some of it. Besides the point. From now on I'll try to be a better part of this community and not one of the people who are looked down upon. I'm here to find glitches and learn some cool shit just like you guys.....

My apologies....

DeadOwnage 10-15-2009 12:52 PM

You wont learn nothing if everyone tells you how. (which we will not)

Jared 10-15-2009 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Away Altair (Post 77723)
Listen, I know I'm way out of my league here....I'm new to this whole bug abuse thing. I honestly did not come here to leach and leak and get your glitches and shit patched. I honestly didn't. I came here so I could learn the basics of glitching. Be able to find some stuff out on my own, and be a part of this community who can contribute. I said I was going to leave before because I didn't want to become one of those people that just posts here to showoff and leak other peoples glitches.

I'm sorry I've been a dick to everyone, however in some respect you guys deserved some of it. Besides the point. From now on I'll try to be a better part of this community and not one of the people who are looked down upon. I'm here to find glitches and learn some cool shit just like you guys.....

My apologies....

Good. You calmed down. Write a apology to the people whom you have upset, and you get another chance. I believe that is fair. And no "You deserved it" or "swear words".

Fire Away Altair 10-15-2009 01:00 PM

That was pretty much my apology right there...

DeadOwnage 10-15-2009 01:01 PM

Doesn't seem like one to me

Jared 10-15-2009 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Away Altair (Post 77726)
That was pretty much my apology right there...

New ones. And specify them to the people whom you insulted. And read the guidelines, no you deserved it or swears.

This shows if you truly want to be a part of the community.

Fire Away Altair 10-15-2009 01:10 PM

Okay where do i need to post this?

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeadOwnage
Doesn't seem like one to me

Maybe you missed the part where I said "My Apologies"?

DeadOwnage 10-15-2009 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Away Altair (Post 77731)
Okay where do i need to post this?



Maybe you missed the part where I said "My Apologies"?

Doesn't SEEM much of one to me.

Jared 10-15-2009 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Away Altair (Post 77731)
Okay where do i need to post this?



Maybe you missed the part where I said "My Apologies"?

This thread would be nice.

Fire Away Altair 10-15-2009 01:32 PM

Okay here's my list of apologies...


Jared- Your right I probably didn't have much of a right to come here on the first day and ask for stuff. I'm still new at this bug abuse thing. Right now my knowledge is little if any...I honestly didn't come here to leak and leach. I came here to get a better understanding of how bugs are found. Find some stuff out for my own. Learn the basics, and then become a better part of this community. I apologize for my behavior and it was improper, no matter how you guys acted towards me. My behavior was improper and regrettable. I just hope you guys will give me a second chance before making a final decision on how long my stay is here.


Jello-I am way out of my league here. I'm still new at this bug abuse thing. Right now my knowledge is little if any...I honestly didn't come here to leak and leach. I came here to get a better understanding of how bugs are found. Find some stuff out for my own. Learn the basics, and then become a better part of this community. I apologize for my behavior and it was improper, no matter how you guys acted towards me. My behavior was improper and regrettable. I just hope you guys will give me a second chance before making a final decision on how long my stay is here. But I honestly did not come here to leak, and leach, and basically get everything fixed. I came here to get a better understanding of glitches, learn some stuff, and find out some pretty cool shit on my own.


To the Ezud Community- I'm sorry about my behavior here thus far. I will try and become a better part of this community and a contributer. Not someone looked down upon. I want to get better at finding out bugs on my own. I don't expect you guys to leak me glitches. I just ask that you try and help my understanding of how all this works, to the best of your ability. Help me out with the basics or the "rules" if you will like with the priorities and such. I regret my behavior thus far and I will try and do better in this community.


I'm sorry everyone.

Mezala 10-15-2009 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Away Altair (Post 77735)
Okay here's my list of apologies...


Jared- Your right I probably didn't have much of a right to come here on the first day and ask for stuff. I'm still new at this bug abuse thing. Right now my knowledge is little if any...I honestly didn't come here to leak and leach. I came here to get a better understanding of how bugs are found. Find some stuff out for my own. Learn the basics, and then become a better part of this community. I apologize for my behavior and it was improper, no matter how you guys acted towards me. My behavior was improper and regrettable. I just hope you guys will give me a second chance before making a final decision on how long my stay is here.


Jello-I am way out of my league here. I'm still new at this bug abuse thing. Right now my knowledge is little if any...I honestly didn't come here to leak and leach. I came here to get a better understanding of how bugs are found. Find some stuff out for my own. Learn the basics, and then become a better part of this community. I apologize for my behavior and it was improper, no matter how you guys acted towards me. My behavior was improper and regrettable. I just hope you guys will give me a second chance before making a final decision on how long my stay is here. But I honestly did not come here to leak, and leach, and basically get everything fixed. I came here to get a better understanding of glitches, learn some stuff, and find out some pretty cool shit on my own.


To the Ezud Community- I'm sorry about my behavior here thus far. I will try and become a better part of this community and a contributer. Not someone looked down upon. I want to get better at finding out bugs on my own. I don't expect you guys to leak me glitches. I just ask that you try and help my understanding of how all this works, to the best of your ability. Help me out with the basics or the "rules" if you will like with the priorities and such. I regret my behavior thus far and I will try and do better in this community.


I'm sorry everyone.

asslicker and nutrider nice, stupid bitch lmfaooooo

Scamming OS 10-15-2009 02:00 PM

I'd like to point out how you guys are complete ass holes. This guy did want to leech, but you know damn fucking well everyone of you has leeched from people you know. Don't pick on the kid cause he's new and doesn't know anything. I'm a bawz leech, coolstoryhuh?
So is Envy, Jello, Jared, Me, Elmos, Ice, Mezala, Dragon, Every one else. Everyone has done it and you all picked this new kid to flame and start an uproar, he wants to learn. He asked what an SI was and you flipped shit over that. I realized you "let" him apologize, when he didn't even need to do that. Because the the people in power can just ban him for not doing what they say. Xander is the only one not power abusing. Let's see everyone else apologize for leeching/leaking, instead of picking on new people and taking advantage of them.

Oh for the failed trolling that's going to come, I'm not mad bro. I scam I, I can't pk, I'm a faggot, Uhhhhh what else would you say, l0l i iz banzored, You may say I have no life, let's see, hai. kthxbai. <3 Love youuuuuu.

Altair, you wont learn anything here. Chances are you'll just be banned in the future.
Don't take anything Mezala, Attiusca, Ice, or Elmosbox try to say to you personally. They're failed trolls. Dawgggg.

Fire Away Altair 10-15-2009 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mezala (Post 77739)
asslicker and nutrider nice, stupid bitch lmfaooooo

Prime reason why I almost didn't apologize. I expected someone to post something like this.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Scamming OS
I'd like to point out how you guys are complete ass holes. This guy did want to leech, but you know damn fucking well everyone of you has leeched from people you know. Don't pick on the kid cause he's new and doesn't know anything. I'm a bawz leech, coolstoryhuh?
So is Envy, Jello, Jared, Me, Elmos, Ice, Mezala, Dragon, Every one else. Everyone has done it and you all picked this new kid to flame and start an uproar, he wants to learn. He asked what an SI was and you flipped shit over that. I realized you "let" him apologize, when he didn't even need to do that. Because the the people in power can just ban him for not doing what they say. Xander is the only one not power abusing. Let's see everyone else apologize for leeching/leaking, instead of picking on new people and taking advantage of them.

Oh for the failed trolling that's going to come, I'm not mad bro. I scam I, I can't pk, I'm a faggot, Uhhhhh what else would you say, l0l i iz banzored, You may say I have no life, let's see, hai. kthxbai. <3 Love youuuuuu.

Altair, you wont learn anything here. Chances are you'll just be banned in the future.
Don't take anything Mezala, Attiusca, Ice, or Elmosbox try to say to you personally. They're failed trolls. Dawgggg.




I do want to learn man. I really do, and your right I'll probably just be banned. But I don't have anywhere else to go and learn.

Jared 10-15-2009 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Away Altair (Post 77735)
Okay here's my list of apologies...


Jared- Your right I probably didn't have much of a right to come here on the first day and ask for stuff. I'm still new at this bug abuse thing. Right now my knowledge is little if any...I honestly didn't come here to leak and leach. I came here to get a better understanding of how bugs are found. Find some stuff out for my own. Learn the basics, and then become a better part of this community. I apologize for my behavior and it was improper, no matter how you guys acted towards me. My behavior was improper and regrettable. I just hope you guys will give me a second chance before making a final decision on how long my stay is here.


Jello-I am way out of my league here. I'm still new at this bug abuse thing. Right now my knowledge is little if any...I honestly didn't come here to leak and leach. I came here to get a better understanding of how bugs are found. Find some stuff out for my own. Learn the basics, and then become a better part of this community. I apologize for my behavior and it was improper, no matter how you guys acted towards me. My behavior was improper and regrettable. I just hope you guys will give me a second chance before making a final decision on how long my stay is here. But I honestly did not come here to leak, and leach, and basically get everything fixed. I came here to get a better understanding of glitches, learn some stuff, and find out some pretty cool shit on my own.


To the Ezud Community- I'm sorry about my behavior here thus far. I will try and become a better part of this community and a contributer. Not someone looked down upon. I want to get better at finding out bugs on my own. I don't expect you guys to leak me glitches. I just ask that you try and help my understanding of how all this works, to the best of your ability. Help me out with the basics or the "rules" if you will like with the priorities and such. I regret my behavior thus far and I will try and do better in this community.


I'm sorry everyone.

Thank you for your apology. Enjoy your stay.

Jello 10-15-2009 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scamming OS (Post 77740)
I'd like to point out how you guys are complete ass holes. This guy did want to leech, but you know damn fucking well everyone of you has leeched from people you know. Don't pick on the kid cause he's new and doesn't know anything. I'm a bawz leech, coolstoryhuh?
So is Envy, Jello, Jared, Me, Elmos, Ice, Mezala, Dragon, Every one else. Everyone has done it and you all picked this new kid to flame and start an uproar, he wants to learn. He asked what an SI was and you flipped shit over that. I realized you "let" him apologize, when he didn't even need to do that. Because the the people in power can just ban him for not doing what they say. Xander is the only one not power abusing. Let's see everyone else apologize for leeching/leaking, instead of picking on new people and taking advantage of them.

Oh for the failed trolling that's going to come, I'm not mad bro. I scam I, I can't pk, I'm a faggot, Uhhhhh what else would you say, l0l i iz banzored, You may say I have no life, let's see, hai. kthxbai. <3 Love youuuuuu.

Altair, you wont learn anything here. Chances are you'll just be banned in the future.
Don't take anything Mezala, Attiusca, Ice, or Elmosbox try to say to you personally. They're failed trolls. Dawgggg.

First, unblock me on Msn.

Jared, I have to agree a second apology was pushing it too far. Altair obviously seems like he wants to learn. We've had so many new noobs coming here to leech bugs, we assumed he was another one. I'm too high to write anymore. Sorry Altair.

jasper* 10-15-2009 06:52 PM

1. Bug Abuse is dead
2. Jared you are a leeching retard, stop accusing other people of leeching when everyone knows that the only bugs you know are ones you have leeched
3. Jello, must i post some msn logs
4. Give the kid a chance

Dvok 10-15-2009 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasper* (Post 77770)
1. Bug Abuse is dead
2. Jared you are a leeching retard, stop accusing other people of leeching when everyone knows that the only bugs you know are ones you have leeched
3. Jello, must i post some msn logs
4. Give the kid a chance

You can just fuck off. Not even willing to deal with trash like you.

cave 10-16-2009 12:04 AM

this guy has more initiative to be successful at bug abuse then every single one of you pussies here he just doesn't understand how things work around here yet, already I have more respect for him then most of you faggots who sit around ezud all day posting things as lame as 'gtfo my ezuds' - it's not your ezud and nobody knows you.

if you ban him you have to ban Jared for leaking like 6 bugs to Mod Dc in exchange for his accounts being unbanned, yes we have proof and it was a few months ago but as Jellofag said it doesn't matter where or when it happened.

Scamming OS 10-16-2009 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jello (Post 77754)
First, unblock me on Msn.

Jared, I have to agree a second apology was pushing it too far. Altair obviously seems like he wants to learn. We've had so many new noobs coming here to leech bugs, we assumed he was another one. I'm too high to write anymore. Sorry Altair.

First, I haven't even been online more than 5 minutes so I don't bother even turning msn on.

Jared 10-16-2009 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cave (Post 77793)
this guy has more initiative to be successful at bug abuse then every single one of you pussies here he just doesn't understand how things work around here yet, already I have more respect for him then most of you faggots who sit around ezud all day posting things as lame as 'gtfo my ezuds' - it's not your ezud and nobody knows you.

if you ban him you have to ban Jared for leaking like 6 bugs to Mod Dc in exchange for his accounts being unbanned, yes we have proof and it was a few months ago but as Jellofag said it doesn't matter where or when it happened.

So have half of your bugging group, and this community..

And your telling me that your flawless bugging group, has never once leaked, leeched, or pressured another person into telling bugs. And I can get screen shots of some massive leaks here, and you still don't seem to understand that I DON'T CARE.

cave 10-16-2009 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jared (Post 77796)
So have half of your bugging group, and this community..

And your telling me that your flawless bugging group, has never once leaked, leeched, or pressured another person into telling bugs. And I can get screen shots of some massive leaks here, and you still don't seem to understand that I DON'T CARE.

you can keep telling yourself you don't care all you want but the fact remains everytime you try criticize or publicly embarrass people like this you just bring into the light that you are a huge fucking nerd virgin hypocrite.

i don't know why but seems you recently took on a new persona as some prodigy of bug abuse talking shit down to people like you're any better but really you haven't influenced anything in any way and you're a straight up nobody.

name one bug you've been the original founder of, oh and fake bugs don't count.

Scamming OS 10-16-2009 12:13 PM

Yeah buddy - Rollin' like a big shot - Chevy tuned up like a Nascar pitstop. Fresh paint job, fresh outside, Is the outside frame in the trunk wide? Are the rims big? Do it ride good? Lean back right hand on the pinewood.

Jello 10-16-2009 12:22 PM

Too much e-drama. Can I just shut the site down?

#21 won't even give Envy FTP access, so no new updates are gonna happen. Eventually it'll just die. Why not quit now and keep atleast a fragment of our pride.

For a little bit, it actually looked like the the site was gonna go somewhere. That's changed. We're back to the start of the rollercoaster without any hax.


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