i was the one who found the 2 ways to reborn this glitch, with poison and summoning. when i discovered it, you would alsways keep it. then when they fixed the first way, they make it so it disapear when you log. now it does disapear when you leave the area OR when you log out OR when you die with it. so you gotta found a way to keep them.
oh and btw, another way to die with it in the quest is using the stranger in dt quest.
hope you find something :)
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